Bojraif

Hola! Konnichwa!

Welcome to jawikivoyage, my name is Omotecho.

Kinldy refer to Help_for_Non-Japanese_Speakers if anything is unclear to you. I'd be honored to guide you to pages or to interpret between your questions and those who knows the solution here on ja wikivoyage, or in short jawv.  

I have noticed you You have contributed a page for Melilla: latest on T17:10:11, 29th, November 2024 (UTC). Wonderful you intrduce ja readers to this beautiful desitination. Arigatow gozaimasu.

That said, I wish you would answer my question: Do you agree you are who contributed on Melilla on Spanish Wikivoyage lately? To be strait, your first edition of メリリャ, here on jawv, is at the moment discussed for Deletion.

What your contribution is challenged is: our local rule says if an edit is doubtful that somebody copied and translated a page from non-Japanese wikivoyage, they have to add a template^(*) on the page's talk page.(*= that template descrubed below) If not, then that edition need to be deleted and protect the original editors on the non-Japanese page. In short, our rule is based on Enlish wikivoyage.

The problem:

• To make things clearer, unfortunately, you have forgot to suggest that you started your メリリャ here on jawv, and it is based on the page Melilla on Spanish wikivoyage (eswv);

1. as far as I guess, you are also the original contributor to Melilla at Spanish wikivoyage, wow 22 editions the latest on T17:10:11, 29th, November 2024:
2. the Template: The ground rule here at jawv is very similar to enwv. Technically, how to declare your contribution is a translation/transliteration of non-Japanese wikivoyage goes:
   1. how you designate on talk page that your contribution is translation/transliteration.

I wish you will answer to my question here, or maybe at the RfD page at: Requested for Deletion page: メリリャ.

Again, welcome to Wikivoyage in Japanese language, and I wish your voyage here will be superb. Allow me to paste a welcome note, but starts in Japanese language.

Bojraif さん、ウィキボヤージュ日本語版へようこそ ! ウィキボヤージュはフリーな旅行・観光ガイドです。あなたの参加を歓迎します。 トラベルニュースを購読することで旅行に関する情報を簡単に知ることができます。 ようこそ！編集の前に以下の記事をお読みください！ Wikivoyage日本語版の記事を編集・立項する前に必ずお読み下さい。 政策 方針文書 参加 / 目的 / 真似をしない CC 削除の方針 荒らしや名誉毀損が疑われる記述は、 すぐ削除・不可視化されます。 手冊 ページの編集 ようこそ / 何でないか / 編集者へ 誹謗中傷や荒らしをしてはいけません。礼儀を欠かさずに編集しましょう。 ノートページやその他議論での発言には署名をしましょう。署名は--~~~~でできます。 テスト投稿はサンドボックスでできます。個人用もぜひ使ってください！ 権限行使の依頼は、管理者の会話ページではなく、管理者伝言板へ依頼して下さい。 他にも保護の方針や中立的に書くなどの方針があります。各種熟読しましょう。 Listing Editorを使うと、目的地を簡単に追加できます。これは個人設定で有効にできます。 質問マーク 質問がある？質問は水茶屋で受け付けています。署名をお忘れなく。 If you have any questions about the Japanese Wikivoyage, please leave a message here. Thank you for visiting! {{subst:var1|</}}{{subst:var1|span>}}--Omotecho (トーク) 2024年11月30日 (土) 08:16 (UTC)

Hello Omotecho!

I have indeed contributed to eswv and enwv. I am also doing translations into other languages. My goal is to make this destination known in the 27 languages ​​available on Wikivoyage.

Please tell me what I have to do to keep the page in Japanese. I am trying to translate it into Japanese with Artificial Intelligence.--Bojraif (トーク) 2024年12月5日 (木) 22:33 (UTC)

I've put this code at the beginning of the article

. Can I continue editing in Japanese or will the page be deleted? Can you help me translate it from the Spanish and English pages to Japanese?Regards--Bojraif (トーク) 2024年12月5日 (木) 22:42 (UTC)

Thank you for your precise reply. Sorry my arms are not long enough to keep your input away from roll-back, and I am happy to assist you in translation. Just out of curiosity:

Do you have any advice about what you find important about that destination?

Such as, in your research, maybe some person, athlete, artist or company to bridge our cultures through Melilla?

I will try and survey library databases to find sources, so that patrollers will enjoy reading that article (;

One endemic token we share on Jawp;

1. use "sandbox feature", check your input beforehand;
2. and to a single article, make editing count smaller/less.

I have to admit some users hunt for pages with many changes in 24 hours, as we are a very small group of editors. Maybe it is part of our (ja Wiki*m*edia) culture anyhow to love cleaner edit history to any article…

Keep the good vibe, --Omo--Omotecho (トーク) 2024年12月6日 (金) 03:13 (UTC)

And surely, you are welcome on ja wikivoyage. Ping me anytime and we will see to mend or tidy-up short comings or expand. That is what a voyage for! --Omo--Omotecho (トーク) 2024年12月6日 (金) 03:22 (UTC)

The most important thing about this destination is old Melilla, a very well preserved walled citadel of more than 500 years, the museums, the beaches and the Hernandez Park, which is a very attractive botanical park. And above all the climate and the tranquility

A famous athlete would be the tennis player Feliciano Lopez who learned to play tennis in Melilla

An artist would be Fernando Arrabal, a famous writer born in Melilla.

I am looking for a sandbox to add as tourist information about the city but I can't find any.

I didn't know it was necessary to add sources like in Wikipedia. If so, I can add them

If you see it necessary to copy the HTML code of the current page (almost finished) and make a new page with only 1 edition, you are free to do so. I am not looking for recognition, only that the destination is available in Japanese. I don't care who appears as the author.--Bojraif (トーク) 2024年12月6日 (金) 08:08 (UTC)

Hello Bojraif!

Let me add some information about the deletion request; The reason for the request is a copyvio problem: as you can read at Wikipedia:Derechos de autor, almost all Wikimedia projects including Wikivoyage are under CC BY-SA 4.0 which requires attribution indication to copy and redistribute contents. That means translation between Wikivoyage should be contributed with the original source indicated. This restriction is the same on Spanish Wikivoyage, so I will not go into more detail, but a revision without indicating the source need to be deleted.

There are two main ways to indicate sources:

1. Indicate a revision ID that identifies the original revision in the edit summary. A revision ID can be provided from URL of the page opened by clicking on the "固定リンク" link.
   • e.g. "Translated from es:Melilla; revision ID: 219072", "Translated from revision 219072 on Spanish version" or something like that
2. Indicate a timestamp of the latest version of the source page on the edit summary. You can get a timestamp by copying the date and time at the top of the history page; for example, at the time of writing this comment, the timestamp on es:Melilla is 10:51, 5 December 2024 (UTC) (the timezone and format may depend on user's preferences).
   • e.g. "Translated from es:Melilla 10:51, 5 December 2024 (UTC)"

Doing either/both of these each time will avoid copyright issues! Honestly this is annoying for active translators, but please cooperate to avoid problems.

Ask me any questions if necessary :) Cheers to Wikivoyagers! --Tmv (会話) 2024年12月7日 (土) 05:05 (UTC)

Thank you @Tmv, our head admin very acceptive of travelers.

@Bojraif, about the resources: sorry for the confusion. The sources has nothing to do with the page content.

I will post a thread to discuss further among the community, at 水茶屋 （日本語） (Red Lantern/Travelers' Pub on jawv), perhaps Overseas territories (skeleton) this afternoon. For your info: To sum up, I was thinking about how we will indicate that Melilla is an overseas location under Spanish administration.

Good luck,--Omotecho (トーク) 2024年12月7日 (土) 06:19 (UTC)

Your username in red -> blue (tips)

Off topic: why don't you introduce yourself at your use page? That way, people will be able to ping you whenever they need your attention. At the moment, @Bojraif, or your name appears in red, meaning you have to check if ppl are talking to you or not /:

1. To solve that, you will write something at your userpage and save.
2. Then, just like my ping to @Tmv as an example, it will be in blue, (;.
3. The trick is to changing your Preferences, at the top of any page on any language , you will receive notices that a message is on your userpage. Your In-box icon will have a number showing how many messages you have across Wikivoyages.

Good luck,--Omotecho (トーク) 2024年12月7日 (土) 06:44 (UTC)